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Avengers: Endgame - The ending doesn't make any sense at all

Warning, the text contains massive spoilers for Avengers: Endgame: After 22 films from the Marvel Cinematic Universe, Avengers 4: Endgame represents the end of two Avengers from the very beginning. But it is precisely the end of Captain America that turns the confusing logic of Endgame completely on its head. Got Captain America with his Time travel destroyed the whole MCU?

Avengers: Endgame and the complicated logic of time travel

Time travel is a complex topic. Endgame knows that too and tries to pull itself out of the affair with bold means. It'll be easy several time travel concepts lumped together and no clear answers were given. Through popular culture, we are primarily familiar with three simplified concepts of time travel:

  • Time is immutable: A journey through time cannot change the past and present. All events are predetermined like a self-fulfilling prophecy. Examples: Predestination, Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban, Timecrimes)
  • Time is changeable: Every change in the past has consequences for the future. There is even a risk of wiping out one's very existence (The Grandfather Paradox). Examples are Back to the Future or the Butterfly Effect.
  • This is extended by the Many worlds theory: Your own present cannot be changed. Any change in the past leaves your timeline untouched and creates a new reality. Example: Star Trek, Fringe

Avengers: Endgame, however, treads its own path and sets its own rules about time travel. There early in preparation for the time hopper Professor Hulk his scientific view of the topic on record and explains everything we have learned about time travel through films, for void and paradoxical. In his opinion and according to quantum theory, intervening in the past cannot change the present. In other words: Killing Baby Thanos doesn't do anything.

The oldest doesn't think time travel is that good

But that's not entirely true. Finally, there is more information about the rules of time in the MCU Eldest across from Bruce Banner. Should he steal your infinity stone from the past, then this has no influence on his reality, but a new one is created in which the time stone no longer exists from 2012: This corresponds to the multiverse theoryon which the Marvel Comics are also built.

Captain America destroys the logic of the MCU

In order to prevent the creation of a parallel reality, Captain America travels through time again at the end of the film to find the infinity stones and Thor's hammer Mjölnirbring back exactly to the momentsfrom which they were stolen. But then he decides to dwell in the past himself to be Happy ending with Peggy Carter and thus destroys the entire logic of time travel in the film.

Shouldn't the elder know as much about time as she says she does? Because if the future Steve Rogers dwells in the past, he would a whole new reality create. In this, the events from the series Marvel's Agent Carter never happened and two Steve Rogers would have existed in parallel for the last 80 years.

The only one Existence of the Old Man Steve on the park bench at the end of Endgame contradicts the logic of the film. Steve can no longer exist in the reality of the film, but would have to have come specially from his newly created parallel dimension, which the film does not suggest in any way. And how long has he actually been sitting there?

Even if an insane time swirl made it possible for Steve to have been on earth for the last 80 years, that would make him a huge asshole. Because he would have to hidden from the Avengers for the last few decades never contacted her and just watched S.H.I.E.L.D. has been infiltrated by HYDRA over the years.

The Avengers irreparably changed time

Either way, Steve Rogers' park bench conversation ends up being part of a huge rift in the film's multiverse logic. Even if we can overlook it, it results from the film's time travel rule an even bigger problem. While the Infinity Stones and Mjölnir were brought back to their original place, they still were further drastic interventions in the past made that would have to create new realities.

Tony Stark's flick in the final battle against Thanos created a new reality in which Thanos, Gamora and Nebula no longer exist as of 2014. Without Gamora, the Guardians of the Galaxy would never have formed in this reality and even more drastic: Thanos would never have been responsible for the deaths of Heimdall, Loki and Vision in 2018.

Is Loki out there somewhere?

So there would have to be a reality in which all Avengers still live. In addition, the leap in time after 2012 has also created a new reality in which Loki flee through the Tesseract can. Of course, the film leaves open whether a multiverse was really created by Avengers: Endgame. Perhaps Thanos and Co. were not wiped out by Iron Man, but brought back to their time to keep the timeline in rhythm.

Whatever time travel logic is followed, in the end, Steve Roger refutes them all. Presumably Professor Hulk was right that all movies about time travel are illogical. In the end it doesn't matter, because a logic hole more or less doesn't make the epic and emotional conclusion of 11 years of MCU seem any less powerful. And maybe Kevin Feige planned it all in the same way.

What do you think of the inconsistent time travel logic in Avengers: Endgame?