Is the engine number the chassis number

Determine the chassis number via the engine number

  • Hello dear community,

    I have a big problem and I hope that one of you can help me further.

    Briefly to the history:
    I recently bought an M54B30 engine through eBay classifieds and had it shipped to me. According to the previous owner or "car recycler", the vehicle was in full service history (approx. 100,000 km). I also received pictures of the checkbook, oil slips, TÜV report, etc. Since the dealer was too far away (600km) I decided to have the engine sent to me by a forwarding agent. The engine arrived a week later, but I quickly realized that I had received a different engine than the one I had ordered. I doubt whether the engine has ever seen an oil change. The idle regulator was totally tight, everything oily, KGE completely closed, etc. Mine looked much better with over 300tkm ...
    I confronted the seller about it, but he just talked his way out.
    Now I have filed a complaint against the seller.

    My question to the community:
    Is there a way to get the chassis number of the original vehicle via the engine number or the barcode? With the chassis number one could surely determine the last known mileage via the Federal Motor Transport Authority or similar. Be it about the previous owner, TÜV reports, repairs in workshops, etc. So I could prove the fraud to the seller and have a chance to get my money back (legal protection)

    I hope someone can help me. Or maybe I can tell if there is any way to find out the VIN. If someone knows something, he is welcome to answer here or write me a PM.

    Thank you very much in advance!

    best regards

    Addy

  • Hello Addy,

    The engine number should be the same as the VIN, unless it is an AT engine.

    If the engine control unit is included, I can imagine that the VIN could be read out there.

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    Original by Addy965
    I also received pictures of the checkbook, oil slips, TÜV report, etc. Since the dealer was too far away (600km) I decided to have the engine sent to me by a forwarding agent.


    At least the TÜV report should have an FGSt no. be on it.

  • The problem is that he gave me a MOT report from another vehicle. Bj from the TÜV report does not match the Bj from the engine.
    Theoretically it could have an ATM in it .. (which would be nonsense) Therefore, my only hope is to get to the corresponding VIN via the engine number. If the VIN does not match the one from the TÜV report, the fraud would be clearly proven.

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    Original by Addy965
    The problem is that he gave me a MOT report from another vehicle. Bj from the TÜV report does not match the Bj from the engine.

    Well, but that should be a clear case of fraud if he uses documents in the advertisement that do not partially match!

    Original by Addy965
    That's why my only hope is to get the associated VIN from the engine number.

    Why don't you try to get the corresponding engine number via the VIN of the TÜV report. If they do NOT match, you would have the same situation as with your constellation.

    And if he then claims that there is an AT in it, it would still be a fraud, since it is not the ENGINE but the VEHICLE that has the mileage (just like in the checkbook).